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midterm critique

Tue Mar 25, 2008, 12:27 AM
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so, for spring break i went on a roadtrip with jess. our end point was the grand canyon. it was amazing. i've never been further out west then chicago... which is sad. anyway, it was awesome. i really had time to clear my head and think. i felt very together when i got back... and already i feel like my head is getting so clouded up again.

grad school is so stupid in a way. you are supposed to be developing as an artist by making work... but with what time? i get so bogged down. plus 2 years is such a short amount of time. it seems like quite a while at first, but now already being almost a year in... it's no time at all. i feel like i've gotten nothing accomplished at all.

which leads me to today. i had my midterm critique. it was ok... but ut kind of made me mad. ok, so basically the most important thing we went over was that i don't finish anything. most of my ideas are kind of related, but i never finish an idea. in these two years i need to have a strong portfolio for my thesis show and for job hunting.

the idea i like most right now is dealing with self love vs. self loathing. i think it comes across in a lot of my photos, but again nothing terribly cohesive. during the critique it basically came to light that i may not have time to develop this idea in the time i have left. it's not something i should give up, but it shouldn't be my main focus.

while on break i decided to do a series of landscapes with my brownie hawkeye. it was mostly just because i was traveling to very scenic areas and i had this camera i had never used before, and i wanted to see what i would get out of it. i got some pretty interesting landscapes that are fuzzy and pretty grey. but they are just landscapes. in critique it was strongly suggested that this be the path i follow. i'm very conflicted as to how i feel about this. personally i think they are nice... but they are landscapes. there is nothing more to a landscape then things just being pretty. if you try to put more on it... you are just a bullshitter... i'm sorry, but c'mon. ok, mine are a little ominous... but that's about it. and i know at least one person who does try to pretend there is more to a landscape then prettiness... i'm just not a good BSer.

i don't know if i should be offended though. i did tell them this isn't really something i'm that interested in, but they continued to insist. are they just trying to give me an easy out... this would be a simple project to do, and i'd have a cohesive body for my show/portfolio. but i don't feel like it's the quality of work a grad student should be producing. i like to think my other work is much stonger... ok, maybe not as cohesive, but more interesting in general. am i wrong though? i almost felt like they were hinting at that.

i guess i really need to pick a direction and stick with it. i'm just hoping i can actually work that way. i never really have before. i like jumping around. i get stuck pretty easily, so when i do i can just go back to something else. but i do understand where they are coming from. and rob brought up an interesting point... with the other mediums it takes longer to make a single piece (most times, not always) so you can stay more focused because you may only make like 3/4 pieces a semester. with photo, the volume is higher. (even with working in the darkroom) it's easier to jump around. a lot of famous photographers build a body slowly because they work on more than one thing at a time.

anyway, i'm still a bit pissed, but i really need to do some thinking and i think i need to talk to rob to make sure i understood lonnie correctly the whole time. i will be printing some of the landscapes and i'll put them up as i go. hopefully i'll get feedback that will help me decide what to do.

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landscapes are just landscapes... people are just people... maybe you are the kind who tries to think people are more then people...

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...And out come the wolves
their paws trampling in the snow of the alphabet
I stand on my head and watch it all go away...
I agree with you, sis. Landscapes are just landscapes. People who try to do landscapes are always looking for ways to make them different and interesting. They're beautiful, but you've seen 1, you've seen them all. I'm not trying to pit you against your teacher or classmates, but come on, your other work is way more interesting, and I must admit that I'm your biggest fan. I think that you could definitley pull all of your other work(or at least a good portion) together into one coherent body of work if you tried. A lot of them have the same tone, at least in my opinion.
sorry it took me so long to reply to this, but what you said did make me think. i was just pissed off, and i think that is more or less why i wrote what i wrote. but i am one who does not get into landscapes very much. it is really just a personal preference. i feel there is a lot more to portraits, because when i look at art, i want it to move me... make me feel something. portraits do this for me. i can relate to the subject. i make art mostly for people who approach art the same way as i do... and therefore do not want to do landscapes and it make me angry that people are telling me to do landscapes when i don't want to... no matter how much easier it would make my life.

i hope i didn't offend, but this is what i think.
haha, you didn't offend me at all. i was just saying that taking images of landscapes is no less artistic then taking them of models. the process of shooting them can be looked at as easier, but so can the process of shooting models... it all depends on what you put into it. from a personal standpoint for you, landscapes don't do it for you. i can totally relate as images of people don't really do it for me. but i won't discriminate against them because i understand that there is a place for that in art. there is a lot of expression in landscapes too though, maybe not as much photography as painting. if someone could convey the energy of a van gogh painting in a landscape photograph i would love to see. i know you like to shoot models of people showing emotions (as i was one of your failed attempts, my calmness did not intrigue you, lol). but that doesn't do it for everyone either. but when it comes to photography, your style is my favorite so don't get me wrong in saying that. i've just always been big on showing respect to something other people might like even if i don't... except for modern country music... that's just a whole different topic. haha.

--
...And out come the wolves
their paws trampling in the snow of the alphabet
I stand on my head and watch it all go away...
people are just people...

--
...And out come the wolves
their paws trampling in the snow of the alphabet
I stand on my head and watch it all go away...
chrissy, your story reminds me of my class getting all concerned over how i dislike pictures of "objects" (aka: images w/out people in them). Alas, as I put it in critique, "i'd rather chop of my own arm than take a picture of a random object" but what did I have up for critique when I said that...?...10 pictures of objects and not a single person (unless you count the purple skinned manikin)
i was pissed at them for telling me to do something I hated. additionally, I was mad at myself for not liking objects...why should i judge pictures of objects? there is a place for everything in art and so many people do awesome photos involving objects, or in your case landscapes. whats the big deal, right? --- thats what I kept asking myself but was still just as angry.

only very recently have a i started a new thought...the lack of thought, or so, definition. the more I try to label my work or subject matter, the more closed down and frustrated i become. defintion, direction...everyone wants to know where you're going with this and that. instead of searching for that bigger secure safe place i'm coming to surrender to paths of this and that. maybe some pictures are landscapes, maybe some are objects, some people, some whatever.
get out there and use your brownie, take beautiful landscapes (becuse you know how) and work with the models, the mri, and more and then spread it all out and around on the floor, breathe, and pull back. you might not be able to pick out an entire brilliantly linked neat single packaged portfolio (but maybe! keep your eyes open!!!) but if nothing else you will find links and spaces and hopefully a true appreciation for each work and that will lead you to something even bigger and better.

it's not the destination, its the journey. besides, landscapes are beautiful art pictures too (you're not going to see my falling in love with mine on some deep emotional level anytime soon either, but I'm starting to see how they can play an important part to not even so much a portfolio but the artistic process)
think of a closet ~ it doesn't just have suits in it for going out and looking professional to the world. it has slippers and hoodies, and suits, and skirts, and jeans, and sweatpants, etc. together it makes up a closet that gives you options for every situation. awesome.

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